Class blog for SUNY Fredonia HIST/WOST 359 Ethnicity and Race, Meeting TR 12:30-1:50 p.m., Spring 2011. Taught by professor Jeffry J. Iovannone.
Saturday, April 9, 2011
In Response to Synagogue Explosion, Sara Ceraso
synagogue bombing
Here is the link: http://www.sacbee.com/2011/04/09/3541060/investigators-search-for-man-believed.html
It is a bit short on information right now, as this did just happen.
White Comedians
His opening act, Alex Raumondo was mexican and his bit focused on his heritage and also kentucky rednecks.
I just thought it was interesting that most comedians can have free reign to make fun of minorities and its all good.
Mississippi voters
Racial opression
The website itself consist mostly of a Two minute thirty second video clip of stand up from the comedian Louis CK. In the clip he discusses the advantages of being both white and a man in today's society and that historical dominance white people have had around the world. He then goes on to discuss how while it would be possible to go to any time in the past and still be in the dominant group he would not like to go to the future. In his eyes instead of the future being a place where all races lived in equality it is a place where white people would be subjugated and mistreated due to their past actions. I thought it was an interesting way to interpret white dominance of society.
Illegal Immigration
Immigrating
Pete
Deportation
I think this is a telling example of why allowing more immigration to America is so important. If only there was some way we could work with illegal immigrants on a case by case basis to find out why it is they are interested in coming here, and having some sort of list based on importance (kind of like a transplant list). If that makes any sense whatsoever.
Victoria Rader post 17
Immigration Issues
Victoria Rader Post 16
The word Racist
Jen Post #17
illegal immigration
A topic that many of my classmates have brought up is immigration. Illegal versus legal, how most people seem alright with legal immigrants, and then have problems with illegal immigrants. Illegal immigration is something that I have always gone back and forth about. I’m not perfect and can admit that I have had thoughts that if a person wants to come over to the U.S. that they should do it legally. I still think that if people want to come over that they should initially try to legally. But I understand that this is something that is easier said than done. I know that it is not as easy as it sounds, and that many people are refused to come here legally. I also understand and realize that there are cases where people have no choice but to come here, and use any method. That the only way they could support or help their family is to come to the U.S. I know personally if I had a choice to make a better life for myself and my family, and my only choice was to illegally go into a country that I most likely would. I think that especially if people have exhausted every method to get here legally, how can we blame them for doing it illegally? It is not like they have an easy life here, we have talked about how prejudice America is. That alone should tell people, that their life they left behind was worse. Also I have issues with penalizing people who have come here illegally. Especially if they have an established life here and have lived here for a long time, how can we just uproot a person’s life that has every right to live here as we do?
#18What color is love?
A couple days ago I happened to watch a movie called “What color is love?” I happened to look it up and found out it was based on a true story. It reminded me of some of the topics we have been talking about so I thought it might be interesting to bring it up. This case happened in Canada, but the topics in it, relate to our class. It was a custody case that was taken all the way to the Canadian Supreme Court. In it a white women slept with a black married basketball star, and the women ended up having a baby. In a trial court, the women won custody of her child (court thought she was a capable mother). But the man decided to appeal it, and he won. One of the issues brought up was the race of the child. He was interracial, but he looked more like his black father, then his white mother. The appeal court thought that this should be taken into consideration. That the black father and his black wife would be able to help the child with stereotypes and racism that he would encounter. The mother, applied to the Supreme Court and they over ruled the appeal court, and she got full custody. The question that this movie asked is “What color is love?” it made me think, would the black family be able to relate to the child better? And should that mean they should raise him? How could the women deal with racism that her child would incur? And then does it matter? If the mother loves her child, should it matter that she might not be able to relate as good as the father? The answers I came up with are, yes race is an issue, and yes the father might be able to better relate to the child. But that does not mean that the child should be taken from his mother. That race should not be so important that it would take a child away from his mother. That by the court of appeals siding with the father, in part by race issues, that it was being prejudiced against the mom. To me also, if the Supreme Court would of agreed, would they be condemning interracial relationships. That they would be saying that only one of the parents could relate better to the child? That by the child resembling a minority, that the mother could not raise the child as well as the father he resembled? I guess I just feel that race should not be as important that it is in many cases.
(I’m not trying to judge if the child would be better off with the mother or the father. What I’m saying is that it should not be determined because of the child’s race or looks.)
#17
Just White?
Pete Ferguson
Stereotypes, Sara Ceraso
Friday, April 8, 2011
Yet another definition of the term 'Racist'
I though of this while i was watching an episode of the show "Gangland". During an interview with a white supremacist gang member, who was in prison, the member openly admitted to being a racist with pride. However he stated that to him, being a racist meant that you love your own race so much, that you are willing to kill members of other races ensure the preservation and prosperity of his own race. I had never heard of racism meaning a love for your own race before, at least in a modern context -- but it is a real twisted/disillusioned love. Another thing is, we spoke in class about how strange it would be for someone to say they are proud of being white. Well, that is exactly what this man did -- and it really was quite bazaar to hear someone say it and be completely serious. It was just an interesting take on racism that I had never heard before. I certainly do not agree with it whatsoever, but from this man's view on racism, you can see how violence and hatred can quickly become a factor in extreme racial pride. Sad, but true.
Meredith Cotter, Post #19
In Response to Frank's...
Meredith Cotter, Blog #18
White European Christians BLog #19 Frank DIMaria
I am Gonna Teach, Not Classify BLog Post #18 Frank DiMaria
Students and Race
Another take on Affirmative Action
What are we really against?
I think the discussion so far about illegal immigrants is very interesting because as Rebecca and Angela have said, many immigrants are here working, but are also living in fear of deportation and losing their families. Rebecca talked about how she thinks these immigrants deserve human rights, but many taxpayers don’t want to pay for these rights, especially since they’re here illegally. America is made up of immigrants who were given a chance to make a better life; some who have been here for hundreds of years, while others are just coming over. I wonder if the countries these immigrants are coming from have something to do with why people are against them so much? If it were millions of European immigrants, would people be more likely to give them a chance? I understand many people don’t like it that these immigrants are illegal, but I think that everybody should be given a chance to become a U.S. citizen. I also agree that there should be an easier way for these workers to become a citizen, especially for people who are here working, and only trying to make a better life for their family.
Laura Kalinowski Post 18
A Thought About Racism
- Josh Steffen
Response to “White Privilege and Interracial Relationships”
-Josh Steffen
Thursday, April 7, 2011
Myths
A Post-Racial America
10 Myths About Immigration
- Most immigrants are here illegally.
- It's just as easy to enter the country legally today as it was when my ancestors arrived.
- There is a way to enter the country legally for anyone who wants to get in line.
- My ancestors learned English, but today's immigrants refuse.
- Today's immigrants don't want to blend in and become "Americanized".
- Immigrants take good jobs from Americans.
- Undocumented immigrants bring crime
- Undocumented immigrants don't pay taxes but still get benefits.
- The United States is being overrun by immigrants like never before.
- Anyone who enters the country illegally is a criminal.
The article goes on to explain each myth and why it isn't true, and if anyone wants to read the article, the link to it is: www.tolerance.org/magazine/number-39-spring-2011/10-myths-about-immigration. I really liked this article because a number of these thing I believed myself before reading it. It is important for everyone to read stuff like this and not just believe everything you hear, which is something I am guilty of at times. It proves a lot of what I once thought wrong, and makes you realize how ignorant you can be at times.
Brigit May, Post 18
Take a Walk in Someone Elses Shoes
Wednesday, April 6, 2011
Reponse to “Fear of Raids and Losing Contact”
On the other hand, both Marger and this article points out that illegal immigrants sometimes receive tax-payer benefits except for in cases like Georgia where strict laws were passed. I am not sure how I feel about this, on the human rights side of things I believe they need these benefits but as a tax-payer it’s hard to swallow. I think the only solution would be making it easier for immigrants to gain citizenship, especially those families who are just trying to make a better life for themselves.
Giving Everybody a Chance
I think this discussion about the Rooney rule is very interesting because it seems like nobody was against this, whereas some people in the class were against affirmative action/quotas. I also agree that the Rooney rule is a positive rule that “levels the playing field” for minorities who may not otherwise have an opportunity. As Chris mentioned in class, something like 78% of players in the NFL are minorities, with very few in higher positions. These figures show that there is discrimination in the league because you know these minorities are good players, yet aren’t being represented in higher positions. I don’t see how people could be opposed to this rule because they’re not being forced to hire them, only give them a chance. I don’t see how giving people a chance could be something negative because as mentioned in class, a few minorities were hired because of this rule, who otherwise may not have even had an interview. I also agree that this is a positive side of affirmative action that should be implemented in other job positions in society. I think people would benefit from having to give minorities a chance because people who normally discriminate would be required to give them an opportunity, and hopefully change their views. It seems like a small step in the right direction to try and get rid of discrimination in the hiring world. Even though some people may interview candidates just to meet the requirement, it seems like it’s a way to start “leveling the playing field” so everybody can have an equal chance.
Laura Kalinowski Post 17
The exception
-Ryan Fleming blog post#18
Who's interviewed?
-Ryan Fleming blog post #17
Today's Policies
White Privilege and Interracial Relationships.
Rooney Rule
Tuesday, April 5, 2011
Rooney Rule
After reading this I wonder if the Rooney Rule goes far enough. The author explains that some coaches view interviewing minority candidates as a “chore.” Like Chris mentioned in class, many coaches interview “token” minority candidates. I do not know how the Rooney Rule could possibly go any further without being considered reverse discrimination. Also, as Chris mentioned, “token” candidates do sometimes get hired; therefore, the Rooney Rule is effective by putting those candidates in the interview position. Overall, I think there is a really fine line between going too far and not going far enough. I do not think that any affirmative action plan can totally satisfy anyone. What I do like a lot about the Rooney Rule is that it emphasizes opportunity. This rule gives minorities an opportunity to present themselves and hopefully, if the candidate is qualified and the hiring committee is not racist, they will have an opportunity to hold a high position within the NFL. I think as far as affirmative action goes, this is probably the most positive policy I have heard of. Even though the author of this article disagrees, I think if the Rooney Rule were to enforce any more affirmative action policy it would cause unbelievable backlash.
Affirmative Action
Sunday, April 3, 2011
Herms and Merms. Sara Ceraso
Affirmative Action. Sara Ceraso
Creating a bigger divide
Ryan Fleming blog post#16
Heterosexual Privilege Checklist from the Queers United Blog
Here is the link to the blog that I mentioned in class, in which the authors took inspiration from Peggy McIntosh and compiled a heterosexual privilege checklist.
http://queersunited.blogspot.com/2008/10/heterosexual-privilege-checklist.html
Best,
Jeff